Histon's con job Options

[MI6]

I see that Histon still haven't paid up for Simpson's move to Posh. They are still hiding behind some cock and bull nonsense about his move being a loan and not a transfer.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Sport/Camb...Simpson-fee.htm

This is clearly a con to diddle us out of our sell-on money cooked up at a meeting that Cambs FA muppet, Roger Pawley sat in on to make sure (apparently) that poor little Tony Roach (who is a hard nosed businessman who has made millions in business) didn't get turned over by big bad Barry Fry!! You couldn't make this up! Methinks, they all left this meeting very happy with the plan they had concocted.

So, if their story it to be believed, what did Histon get for Simpson then? Did they really let their prize asset leave for the princely sum of four weeks wages?? what would that have been? about £2000 ?? No, I don't think so either and I can't believe anyone else does. I hope the full FA are willing to look into this as there is clearly wrongdoing and lets face it, Barry Fry has form when it comes to less than honest dealings in the transfer market.

City have clearly been turned over. Stuff inter-club relations, we need to take them to the highest powers we can and have them shown up for what they are.

[Citigroup]

You're spot on MI6. This is one big stitch-up.

How many clubs let their best players who are still under contract, leave on a loan deal then at the end of that deal say "no, we don't want any money, you keep him"? None!

This is all getting very interesting. The Cambs FA, a supposedly independent body which oversees the interests of all Cambridgeshire clubs, allows oner of their officials (a former player and known sympathiser of one of the clubs involved) to sit in on a deal that sees another local club conned out of what is rightfully theirs? Who said the FA weren't fit for purpose.

I think that bunch of stuffed suits up Bridge Road need to take a look at themselves and one or two should be considering their positions in my opinion.

[Phil]

"I sat in with (then Histon chairman) Tony Roach, his wife Julie and Barry Fry, but I was just a third party listening in to make sure no one was getting battered as Tony and Julie had never been in that situation before," said Pawley.

Errr, yes - City got battered!

[Cambridge Blue]

The Idiots dragged their heals over paying the initial Simpson fee when he moved from us to them. No surprise that they have come up with this little charade to avoid paying the sell-on. A position disgracefully supported it seems, by our very own FA.

It's not even a particularly good ruse in any case. It's obvious as hell that no club would do what they want us to believe they've done. They must not be allowed to get away with it!

This from Pawley annoyed me:

"I feel for City if they are owed a genuine amount of money. They should get the money owed to them."

What does he mean "if"? We are and he knows it.

After this, if in the future they came looking to sign any of players, I know exactly what they should be told. It would begin with "F" and end with "off"!

[MarkE]

It seems to me we are morally obliged to pay the 30% regardless of the legalities and I hope someone at the club recognises this and agrees tp pay up. Otherwise this whole thing will fester and result in more ill feeling between our clubs.

Of course, its anybody's guess when you'll actually get the money. Hopefully when the season gets underway and some cash starts flowing into the club, we'll be in position to pay. After all, its not a large sum in the great scheme of things, 6K I believe.

[Warney]

This whole thing stinks. What a effing horrible club Histon are.

We should never do business with them for precisely this reason. Had they been credit checked, I think it would have shown they can't/wont pay. I hope we get whats owed and more.

[tony pryor]

I was going to add my views on the Josh Simpson, transfer but have decided not to comment Im sure the City Board know now whats got to happen.

[MI6]

Of course, its anybody's guess when you'll actually get the money.

Reading your forum it appears that your "Income Generation Group" has raised 20K so there's your answer. Your club has the money and as far as I can see no excuse not to pay us what we are owed.

[Barnsey]

I really am quite frankly stunned by all of this. It stinks!
I am not surprised by the underhand antics of Histon FC, to which we have now become accustomed, but it is the involvement of Cambs FA which leaves a nasty taste in the mouth.

Are we or are we not fully paid up members of the Cambs FA? In the light of Mr Pawley’s revelations over the past few days it seems that member clubs are not being treated impartially and certainly do not receive the same degree of support.

Spot the difference . . .

"Ever since Gareth Baldwin (former chairman) left we've given them as much help as we can and we'll continue to give them as much help as we can," said Pawley. "It's mostly advice. I actually sat in on the meeting when Josh Simpson was moving to Peterborough to make sure things went as smoothly as possible. I was there to lend a helping hand."
- Roger Pawley

“I feel for City if they are owed a genuine amount of money. They should get the money owed to them." - Roger Pawley

This money we are owed is a BIG issue and it requires immediate attention, not a sweeping statement of sympathy from the Cambs FA Chief Executive who actually sat in on the deal!
Sounds familiar though doesn’t it. Isn't this the same kind of couldn’t care less ‘sympathy’ and lack of actual 'support' we got from the Cambs FA throughout all of our recent troubles.

In a job which carries great responsibility and where fairness is essential, it would seem that Mr Pawley is certainly not fit for purpose.

I just hope this doesn't rumble on and on.

[zzzzzz]

Its the same Mr Pawley who told my business friend a few months ago that:

1.The only way out for Histon was admin.

2. It doesn't bother Cambs FA if they did as they were safe in their building at the Glassworld.

[Cambsdon]

Pawley is like so many other regional FA and League bods, which is why grassroots football in this country is a bit of a joke. They're in it for the blazer and 'glory', they don't actually bring anything 'to the table'

[keef]

I heard this was not the only case where Peterborough have helped a club out by calling it a loan. Peterborough for some reason must have been leant on or sympathised with little Histon to help them keep all the cash and not pass it onto us.

It also speaks volumes about the football club at Bridge Road, and its no wonder no one likes them.

As for the Cambs FA they need investigating. I didn't see them help us out during the last few years of struggle.

[tony pryor]

Peterborough FC have Danny Blanchett on the transfer list Crewe Alexandra FC are giving him a trial, not another ex City player out on loan, do we have a sell on of 30% on him I was going to make contact with the Cambs FA,to find out if they had been in touch with the Peterborough Chairman.

[RegPearce]

Did anyone hear John Beck on Radio Cambridgeshire tonight. Apparently he was talking about getting a couple of Peterborough players in on loan on the back of the deal that saw Josh Simpson SOLD to Peterborough.

[swanseajack]

To my understanding there has been no recent statement from the Board on this.

I hope we are fighting for our cash and not letting them get the better of us. I know Shiton and are in dire straits but they had that money in their hands so they should have paid us what was agreed. CCFC gets pushed around way too much and I hope King Kev is on the case.

Failing that maybe City fans need to demonstrate outside Histon FC. This case needs to be highlighted. Where is our money?

[MI6]

To my understanding there has been no recent statement from the Board on this.

I hope we are fighting for our cash and not letting them get the better of us.

The article that appeared in last weekend's NLP said that City are prepared to go to court and sue Histon if they are not forthcoming with the money they owe and stop hiding behind this "loan fee" smokescreen. It's a pathetic ruse that nobody is fooled by. Typical Barry Fry really.

I don't get the feeling City are going to roll over and let them get away with this.

[Michelle]

Barry Fry and Histon really are a match made in heaven! I should have said something to Barry Fry last night. I was sitting near him at the POSH v West Ham friendly and I can assure you that anything I would have said to him would most certainly not have been 'friendly'!

GIVE US OUR MONEY!!!!!

p.s. Me and Jamie didn't pay to watch them by the way. No chance.

[swanseajack]

MI6 you are on the ground so accept you know more than myself.

I would have more respect for Histon if they turned to us and said 'we are skint, sorry but we have no cash, what can we do?' As opposed to being sly rats about this 'loan fee' setup.

As for Pawley, he and his organisation should be ashamed. I took myself off the Cambs FA thing on Facebook. I dont want anything to do with them.

[Barnsey]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/8818728.stm

If Josh moves on, I wonder if Histon will send their man Pawley up to London Road to make sure every thing 'goes smoothly' in respect of their sell-on fee?

[MI6]

I would have more respect for Histon if they turned to us and said 'we are skint, sorry but we have no cash, what can we do?'

I agree with you, but they did have the money in their hands from Posh, they just chose not to pay us. They apparently do have some free cash at the moment though. They have created something called the "Income Generation Group" and they have regularly trumpeted on their website that they have raised £20,000+. As I see it, they can pay, they just won't and continue to hide behind their "loan fee" lie.

It's a pity their club leaders don't listen to some of their fans (like MarkE) who says they should pay. At least some up there have morals.

I can't believe that if this matter was taken to the FA that they couldn't see through it. For a start, Barry Fry is involved. That should get ring alarm bells ringing immediately. Then there is no way a club desperate for money would allow their still under contract prize asset to move to another club for the princely sum of a few weeks wages, no way, it's nonsense.

It's 6K we're after, it may not be a huge sum to many, but it's an extra player in our squad and very important to us.

As for Pawley, that twister is going to retire as the Cambs FA Chief Executive, but he isn't going to fade into the background, oh, no, he's been re-elected as the Cambs FA rep at the national FA. When you see the quality of people involved with the FA is it any wonder that it's not fit for purpose.